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05 November 2007 @ 02:06 pm
Relax a new perm?  
I figure that y'all would have an idea for me...

I tried to get a body wave yesterday. Was emphatic with the lady that I didn't want a curly or spiral perm. (backstory: since being diagnosed with diabetes, mots of things have changed - my hair being one. Won't hold my usual red haircolor with a damn, and now that I cut it all off my natural wavyness is nowhere to be found.) I thought that a body wave would put in that wavyness that allowed me to squidge in some pomade to my towel-dried locks and go.

Yeah. Not so much. I am now the owner of a perm. Not super tight, not frizzy, but definately *not* a body wave.

I picked up a bottle of Wella Regenal at the suggestion of the ladies at Sally Beauty Supply. I washed my hair as soon as I got home with clarifying shampoo and slathered on the Wella stuff. After towel drying I slathered a packet of Pantene's overnight deep conditioner and topped off with a shower cap. This morning I rinsed that off and used Ion Reconstructing Conditioner.

The only thing I know to do is condition the hell outta my head in the hopes that it will relax the curl. Will coloring my hair relax it some? I'm planning on using a permanent hair color on Wednesday, since the perm kicked out all the semi-permanent dark brown I had on my head.

Anyone have some other ideas? I'm going to see friends in San Diego next weekend and would rather not have hair I can't stand. (Not that the perm is awful... it's just very much not what I wanted.)
la_bellisima33: oliverla_bellisima33 on November 5th, 2007 10:17 pm (UTC)
I've had many perms, and they all looked horrible (in my opinion) in the first 1-2 weeks, and then I loved them...it's sort of par for the course I think.

My recommendation is to do as little as possible to it beyond condition, condition, condition as you said. Shampoo *maybe* every other day, but with a fresh perm you could stretch that to every 2-3 days- just rinse your hair out and condition. You probably know this already, but absolutely no brushing, and even be sparing with a hair pick. Coloring may help a little, but you will most likely just need to wait it out...it *will* calm down noticeably in a couple weeks.

Gel and mouse could help tame it, but be careful not to rub it around too much or you'll lose the curl definition and end up with frizz/volume.
Sarah: Dont Wannaophy on November 5th, 2007 10:48 pm (UTC)

Glad to know I'm on the right track. Fortunately, the perm doesn't look *horrible* (well, except for what it did to the color of my hair) it's just very much not what I was aiming for.

la_bellisima33: oliverla_bellisima33 on November 6th, 2007 02:48 am (UTC)

Yep, I've been there with it not looking like I had envisioned, but honestly the look is usually totally different after a week or two. Hang in there a bit longer before you decide you don't like it and just tame it as best you can right now! :)
msi_junkie17: ieatmsi_junkie17 on November 5th, 2007 10:24 pm (UTC)
I am a stylist and really the only advice I can give is to shampoo with clarifying shampoo and pick out. The conditioning will be good for your hair, but really do nothing as far as relaxing the perm.

If you still really don't like it in about a week to two weeks you can go back and ask for another perm. If you're really dissatisfied with it right now, I'd go talk to the manager/owner/stylist...they would more than likely be willing to work with you to achieve the results you were looking for (and you might not have to pay for the perm again). Anything past a week and the liability is on you.
Sarahophy on November 5th, 2007 10:49 pm (UTC)
Glad to know I'm on the right track.

I really want to avoid re-perming. I'm already skeeving about the initial perm chemicals... don't wanna compound the damage inheirant to a perm. (The ladies at Sally initially suggested some sort of "curl relaxer" product that sounded suspiciously like another perm, so I declined and took their second suggestion of the Wella product.)

Thanks for your advice!
Caro: My Spoon is too big!carosconundrum on November 5th, 2007 10:53 pm (UTC)
I would march myself back to the salon and ask for a refund or for them to fix it for you for a discount today. Really you should have done that before all the other treatments since you weren't happy with the result.

Really I think that dying it will just make matters worse right now.
Sarahophy on November 5th, 2007 11:59 pm (UTC)
I appreciate your thoughts, but not your tone.

I don't believe there's really anything that can be done to "un-do" the perm at this point, save another perm to "straighten" my hair back out. I'm not willing to do another chemical process as harsh as a perm again.

Color, OTOH is a different matter. I'm going to color my hair regardless, having done so in the past after perms with no ill effects. I'm just hoping that maybe the color will relax things a tad as well. (Never been in the position to want to prematurely relax a perm before.)

(I do appreciate your contribution though, and nearly splorted crystal light on my monitor when I saw your "Friends only" banner.)
The Mystical Forestzaxwrit on November 5th, 2007 11:46 pm (UTC)
I don't know, but the folks at the hairboutique.com forums are very knowledgeable. I didn't read the other comments, I know the folks here are too but that is just an alternate option for you. I've learned a lot about haircare over there.

Good luck!
Sarah: Chewing Bunnyophy on November 6th, 2007 12:00 am (UTC)
Oh Brilliant!

Thanks for the link! (You'd be amazed at the level of crap one finds when googling for haircare info....)
Kathrynmyskat on November 6th, 2007 12:10 am (UTC)
not a perm, but...
as curly head with alot of frizz, I can tell you that demi-permanent color really calms my hair down quite a bit as does coconut oil, both as a deep conditioner and a spot frizz reducer. Hope they help you as well!
Angieaiela on November 6th, 2007 02:11 am (UTC)
My daughter got a body wave. After the first week of being really curly, it's now barely wavy unless she puts stuff in it when its wet. So I don't think they did it wrong, I think it just needs a few days to a week to "settle in"
starrytxnightsstarrytxnights on November 6th, 2007 05:56 am (UTC)
I remember back in the day when I got perms all the time, the first week or so I would go around looking like a poodle, then after that it always settled down and looked right. Give it a week. It will more than likely have relaxed a great deal. You really don't want to do too much to it right now other than wash, condition and style normally because you run the risk of damaging it more AND making it too relaxed later when you want some wave. Use your normal shampoo and conditioner and get you some John Frieda Frizz-Ease Dream Curls spray. That will tame the frizzies and make the curl smooth out some. The color will relax the curls as well.
sullen_criminalsullen_criminal on November 6th, 2007 06:41 am (UTC)
I'm suggesting that you use a straightening iron. Many people who get perms have it fall soon after they get it. I'm thinking that a straight iron would hurry the process up. Unless of course you want the perm to stay and then I might suggest some volumizing shampoo + light gel, hairspray and a diffused blow dry to make the curls look more natural.