17 July 2012 @ 04:37 pm
cruises and snoring  
A friend of mine has never been on a cruise, and would like to go. We travel well together, and I enjoy cruises. The problem...she snores like a freight train. She's conscious of it, and tries her best to accommodate. When we do weekend trips together, she'll go in another room for an hour to try and give me time to fall asleep. But the reality is that it never works well and I end up being tired and crabby.

Needless to say....cruise rooms are TINY. I've been putting off the idea of this trip because Im not willing to drop a chunk of change on a trip and be miserable and tired the whole time. A weekend is one thing, a week on a cruise is another.

So Im looking for ideas that would be fitting for a small stateroom on a cruise ship. For example, it wouldn't work out well to pack a strong fan in my luggage and haul it on my flight,etc. And I don't think a little travel fan would cut it here. Ive thought about trying to fall asleep with earbuds in...but I have an irrational fear of losing/breaking my iPhone in the middle of the night doing this. Would it be wrong to get a script for a sleeping pill? I've never really taken anything and wouldn't even know what to ask for! My dad has had bizarre reactions to ambien, so I know Im not interested in that.
 
 
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Pilgrim in an unholy land.: !!!splatterhouse on July 17th, 2012 08:41 pm (UTC)
I have a pair of well fitting ear buds that block out a huge amount of most sound even without music. I can't even hear my sun conure scream when I'm wearing them & that's saying something. Just wear something like that to bed?
Sara: Argus on desksara_k_s on July 20th, 2012 05:38 pm (UTC)
For just a split second, when I saw your comment, I thought you had poor spelling and meant that you can't hear your son, Connor, scream, and I thought, "That's horrible!" until I realized you were talking about a bird :)
Pilgrim in an unholy land.: !!!splatterhouse on July 20th, 2012 05:44 pm (UTC)
lol, that's a new one. usually people mishear "parrots" as "parents" & give me some interesting looks as a result. :P
☆: Child - ZAP!theidolhands on July 17th, 2012 08:43 pm (UTC)
Earplugs, NOT headphones. Bring fan anyway, look for a white noise type made for travel. Yeah, sure, get the pills. So my answer is D) all of the above.

Can she try a nose strip for snoring? That works wonders from some people. But honestly, a lot of my fandom friends are on CPAPs. Some people have had surgery to fix snoring!

None of this may work completely btw. But it's worth a try if ya wanna. I'm in ur boat. I need my own room and then some depending on location and thinness of walls. Snores vibrate and particularly if you happen to be sharing a bed -- the sound waves travel, I find.

Edited at 2012-07-17 08:45 pm (UTC)
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*: goldstarsroberlyn on July 17th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
disposable earplugs help a lot. you can buy them at drugstores or target-type stores. cheap and portable. also, i have a sound machine that helps. it's pretty small, maybe shoe-sized. basically makes a fan noise.
kindmemory: [afufle] Broclyphantkindmemory on July 18th, 2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
This, absolutely, foam earplugs, BUT they don't work unless you roll them into a ball before putting them in, that make a tight seal apparently. They work really well, no drugs, no batteries or recharging or electricity needed.
Storm's ramblingsstormkitty on July 17th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Earplugs. But get used to them now so you know which kind will work well. When I was sleeping in the same room with a heavy snorer, I found that using the kind I could buy at Home Depot for construction workers worked way better than the ones at the drug store.
Heather A. Perry: new doheatherp8 on July 17th, 2012 11:42 pm (UTC)
this
1079: pic#114904856lost_sheep on July 17th, 2012 08:44 pm (UTC)
Regular old ear plugs have worked well for me in the past.

They are cheap enough you could buy them and test them out at home to see if you can sleep in them before even talking to her about the trip.
carli410: pic#97497191carli410 on July 17th, 2012 08:59 pm (UTC)
Ok so I forgot to post about earplugs. I will try them on my own to see if I can tolerate them...the problem is that while I'm not used to sleeping next to a freight train, I'm used to some noise. Typically a fan. Im thinking I won't be able to sleep in total silence, like being in a bubble. But thanks for the reminder, I'll give it a try. Im trying to get all of my ducks in a row before we have *the talk*
KBR: pic#117985652gezellig_girl on July 17th, 2012 09:02 pm (UTC)
The back of the earplug packaging will have how many decibels of noise they block out. If you're okay with some noise, try a couple different decibel ratings until you get the level you want.
carli410: pic#97497191carli410 on July 17th, 2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
I borrowed a set from my boss today...Im going to try them tonight!
the duchess: 1776: ruffles and quillstiltonandpear on July 18th, 2012 12:20 am (UTC)
I've used earplugs on trips to counter my father's snoring, and there was always the sound of my own breathing and my own heartbeat behind the earplugs, so it's not dead silence. There's something there in the background, at least.
Kat: pic#73799811katsiss on July 17th, 2012 09:05 pm (UTC)
I'd go with motion sickness pills. Kill two birds with one stone.
chezaleechezalee on July 17th, 2012 09:23 pm (UTC)
There are white noise apps for your phone that may work better than a fan. You can put it right next to the bed. Maybe that along with earplugs?
Pat Bpbrim on July 17th, 2012 09:37 pm (UTC)
Try a white noise machine. Amazon has a number of models varying from $20 to $100. My ex-husband used one to deal with barking neighborhood dogs, and it helped with his snoring as well. It's very like the sound a fan makes, but with more control and more volumn and without the fan. A lot easier to pack as well.

I'm afraid I can't tell you anything about which is the best. I think we had a Homedics that we were very happy with, but it was bought about 30 years ago, so I can't tell you anything about the newer ones.
lapenn: book teaselapenn on July 17th, 2012 10:45 pm (UTC)
yes, this. My ex-boyfriend had one he used, and it was awesome. One night, a car alarm went off in his parking lot, and it went off _all_night_long. Wish I were joking. The white noise machine blocked the noise!

He had a fairly little one that was something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Conditioner-Marpac-formerly-Sleepmate-980A/dp/B000KUHFGM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1342565064&sr=8-1&keywords=white+noise+machine

and he definitely took it with him on vacations. He had to have it on to sleep. Put it this way: we couldn't share a room, because just me breathing disturbed his sleep.
Heather A. Perry: new doheatherp8 on July 17th, 2012 11:46 pm (UTC)
I used a machine just like this for both my kids growing up.
Now I use one just like it for myself.
Awesome!
heavyonmymind: bright yarnheavyonmymind on July 18th, 2012 01:14 pm (UTC)
I have 4 of these sleep machines in my house (one in each bedroom). My mom also has one she's had for 40 some years and it still works wonderfully. I highly recommend them! I like that it's small enough to pack (unlike a fan) and is still sufficiently loud.
mimi: do not wantmyluckeestar on July 17th, 2012 09:48 pm (UTC)
Obviously you are a normal sleeper otherwise, so I don't think a scrip sleeping aid is ok. I do think that some melatonin would help you to sleep more deeply. You can get it from 1-6mg. I take it regularly and take 5mg. I would think 2 or 3mg would benefit you.
Shannon: Me - Animeshannon_elaine on July 17th, 2012 09:54 pm (UTC)
go to Home Depot or some place similar and buy the foam ear plugs made for construction workers. I am a very light sleeper and my SO snores really loudly so I sleep with the ear plugs in. They keep him from waking me up and keep me from being woken up by other night time sounds.
jchammondsjchammonds on July 17th, 2012 09:55 pm (UTC)
Earplugs, travel fan, white noise machine, get her some snore strips and a can of Snore Stop. She can hang out on deck for an hour while you fall asleep, too, or just read or something if the light won't bother you. You can take Tylenol PM or Benadryl.
jchammondsjchammonds on July 17th, 2012 09:58 pm (UTC)
Oh, and my husband is a horrible snorer. I made him go to the sleep lab and he now has a cpap machine and both our lives are better. We took it with us on our cruise in May. One other tip about cruising - take an extension cord or a small power strip b/c you'll probably only have one outlet in your room. It was handy for us when we wanted to charge both iPads and he was sleeping using the machine.
dushamoya: userpicdushamoya on July 17th, 2012 10:42 pm (UTC)
I used ear plugs and slept in a separate room completely for my husband for about two years because of his snoring. The nose strips and that snore stop did NOTHING for him. His snoring and sleep didn't improve until the CPAP, and now we can sleep in the same room again!
Sarcasticia Nitpickerson: kittenstisiphone on July 17th, 2012 10:24 pm (UTC)
It may be easier to fix her snoring than to knock yourself out firmly enough to not notice it. I'd just be forthright with her and tell her that it's a long time to deal with it. Offer her some suggestions if she hasn't tried them, like extra pillows or snore-stop strips.
carli410: pic#97497191carli410 on July 17th, 2012 11:08 pm (UTC)
While she's one of my longest friends...and i adore her...she's a very regulated person. She can't sleep if there's any light..she needs her blankets a certain way...she needs the bed with the nightstand on the right side..@@ So Im sure there is no possible way she would be able to sleep w snore strips.
Amanda: Penquinfailstoexist on July 20th, 2012 10:54 am (UTC)
Yeah, I tried the nose strips for my brother's benefit when we shared a hotel room--he said it made it worse, because I kept waking up because I was so uncomfortable, and that meant I was spending more time snoring because I snore when I'm not sleeping that deeply.

But if someone wakes me up, I generally stop, sometimes for the whole night. If your friend doesn't, it might be worth her getting checked out-there are serious issues that can cause snoring, and it's good to have that looked into.
Aeryn: indiana jonesaeryn on July 17th, 2012 10:26 pm (UTC)
Definitely start getting used to sleeping with earplugs. I sleep with them because I have 3 cats in a small apartment. I also have an air purifier in my room that runs for white noise, and in a silent room I can still hear it but it's significantly dampened. I've never been on a cruise but I assume they have an A/C and heat unit similar to hotels? Maybe that will generate enough noise for you.

Do you get sleepy from Benadryl? I have often taken that when I'm having trouble falling asleep, so that might be a "sleeping pill" option for you. And, many sleep aids contain the exact same drug as Benadryl.
m0rbidm00n: school1m0rbidm00n on July 18th, 2012 02:48 am (UTC)
This. My doctor recommends taking a benadryl from time to time to help with sleeping.
Wasanifu: Hamsterswasanifu on July 17th, 2012 10:28 pm (UTC)
If your worried about breaking your phone by using it as an MP3 Player can't you just invest in a really cheap one for your trip? You'd probably want a different playlist so you didn't get anything too upbeat at a night time anyway. They've dropped incredibly in price, and if it's only a $30 one (I know you can pick really cheap ones up in the UK for about £20) then you won't be too upset if you break it by accident.
omnipotentsushiomnipotentsushi on July 17th, 2012 11:05 pm (UTC)
If your friend hasn't talked to her doctor about her snoring issues she really should. Snoring can be a sign of sleep apnoea. Her snoring can be the sound of her breathing stopping and her body jump starting it back. Her doctor can refer her to a sleep specialist and she can do a sleep study to find out if this is why she snores. Or her doctor might determine it's a sinus issue and go from there.
If she ends up needing a cpap machine, it does emit a white noise type of sound that might be enough for you since you are used to a fan.
carli410: pic#97497191carli410 on July 17th, 2012 11:11 pm (UTC)
She's aware and familiar w. sleep apnea. Im assuming she's just not interested in exploring that avenue
Kris: SuperKanerquiet000001 on July 17th, 2012 11:33 pm (UTC)
This is what I was going to suggest also - is she aware of the risks of untreated sleep apnea? My mom has it and it's not something to mess around with.
your bright silver grin: Rarlen_esq on July 18th, 2012 03:10 am (UTC)
Thirded (although OP can't, of course, make her friend do anything). My dad and my sister both have sleep apnea. And dear god, do they both snore. My sister in particular was really reluctant to do anything about it, but she finally got a cpap machine. The difference in her sleep, and her overall health, has been pretty impressive.
Not Your Bitch: pic#117034537strand3d on July 18th, 2012 03:12 am (UTC)
Sleep apnea has been linked to everything from cancer to high blood pressure and heart attacks. It's not something to ignore. If she snores as bad as you say, it's very very likely she has it.
City Bird: pic#16590402starsorstreet on July 18th, 2012 10:37 am (UTC)
I agree. I know you can't make her do anything, but this is a serious medical problem that she can't ignore.
Believe_in_me: lightbelieve_in_me on July 17th, 2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
Yay cruise! :)

Have you taken Melatonin? It's natural and it helps me IMMENSELY with falling asleep. If you want to try it you might want to take taking a small amount. I've been taking it for a year and 1/4 of a mg is more than enough for me but for others a whole mg isn't enough. Basically I am lightweight when it comes to stuff that makes me drowsy.

If you're not interested in that then I also suggest a cheap mp3 player or a dvd player with one of those soundscape cds.

carli410: pic#97497191carli410 on July 17th, 2012 11:10 pm (UTC)
Ive recently started taking Melatonin..so maybe that would be enough to knock me out. Its worked well for me so far.
rhopalocera: pic#109973185rhopalocera on July 17th, 2012 11:18 pm (UTC)
I have this issue with my husband. You may have seen me post on here looking for headphone recommendations. lol

We've taken a couple of cruises , because, honestly? Being on a cruise is worth a little sleep deprivation to me.

Anyway, the best you can probably do is earplugs with headphones of some sort on top of them. Also, take otc motion sickness medication and try to get her to give you an hour or two headstart on going to bed. She can hang out on deck or at one of the shows or clubs. And if all else fails, sleep in a lounge chair by the pool during the day. I tend to sleep better on a ship than I do anywhere else, probably because of the constant rocking motion. I also prefer an interior (windowless) room because they are nice and dark.

Hope this helps and that you get to go on and enjoy your trip :)
Marryoh: pokemon | charmandermarryoh on July 18th, 2012 12:53 am (UTC)
And if all else fails, sleep in a lounge chair by the pool

A coworker did this one night when she was on a cruise apparently. She had been having trouble sleeping so she went for a walk on deck, laid down on a lounge chair somewhere and drifted off... When she woke up to stretch a little before laying back down, one of the workers came over and asked if she wanted a pillow and blanket so she could get comfortable. :)
Gwen: My heart in a treeverygwen on July 18th, 2012 01:07 am (UTC)
I have a small sound machine that works very well. There's also a Koi Pond app for the iPhone that I use when I'm traveling and forget my sound machine.

Your friend should also look into having a sleep study done. She might benefit from a CPAP machine.
меня зовут Клараklarenka on July 18th, 2012 05:04 am (UTC)
Dude, earplugs. Plus an extra pillow to put over your head (if you're a side/back sleeper).
erica scarica: bookworm beautyduchess_k on July 18th, 2012 06:53 pm (UTC)
Separate cabins? If she won't do anything to help and you're unconvinced about earplugs, etc., it could be worth the extra expense. I went to Nantucket with my mom, shared a room with her the whole vacation, and honestly don't think I slept. It ruined the whole vacation for me so it was ALL a waste.
mirhanda: The Accolademirhanda on July 18th, 2012 10:04 pm (UTC)
My first husband was like that. He snored so loud my sleep was always interrupted. I finally started sleeping in soft, foam earplugs. They work so well that even though he's out, I still use them to drown out birds and whatnot from outside that tend to wake me too early.
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